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Comparison

I tried here to summarize large class of solutions we usually use, add demographic decrease, and southern wasteland. The concern are items that are relayed by medias, especially TV.

Obviously, the following is my opinion and you may have others. I did not had time to make the web site able to record your voting and comment but you can record this page and fill it with your own responses !

Concerns Technology Economy Ecology Education Demography Wasteland
Economical emigration = -- = = + +
Unemployment -- -- + + + +
Growth, development, progress + + = + = +
Environmental disaster, species extinction -- -- + = + +
Racism = = = + + +
War, terrorism -- -- = = + =
Starvation + = = = + =
Social inequity, poverty, injustice = -- = + + +

Technology


Technology Utility Comment
Economical emigration =No claim
Unemployment -- Have a negative effect as it tend to improve efficiency
Growth, development, progress+It is the main factor of growth and development
Environmental disaster, species extinction -- Provide means of destruction
Racism = No claim
War, terrorism -- Provide weapons
Starvation + Improvement in productivity can temporary satisfy needs
Social inequity, poverty, injustice = No claim

Economy


Economy Utility Comment
Economical emigration -- Cheap workers
Unemployment -- Have a negative effect as it tend to improve efficiency
Growth, development, progress + Growth and development is the holy grail of economy
Environmental disaster, species extinction -- Don't care 
Racism + Business is business
War, terrorism -- Good profits
Starvation = Don't care
Social inequity, poverty, injustice -- Don't care

Economy is the most accurate way we organize in order to produce a great bunch of goods and services. Maximization of profit tend to lower cost that in many case result in lower resources consumption.

For example, if the phones are now build in china it is just because the production cost there plus shipping is lower than any where else. The cost optimization also covers transient states, as production may be relocated or abandoned or any changes due to market moves.

It is important to keep in mind that it is a very powerful and efficient process. No other way have ever shown better efficiency so far. I am afraid we to coop with for a long time until we find a replacement.

The major way liberal economy can be oriented into different choices, is costs. If it is not desirable something be done, just make it more expensive. A other way will soon be find.

The draw back is when cost is affordable, the only parameter to make more money is the quantity. The economical growth is then linked with the market size and most of the time the good bet is to produce more for more people and nonexistent needs.

See  The World Food Crisis in Historical Perspective post-food-surplus

Companies are asked to make money. and not to bother with social, ecology, or man faith. Any of us when acting in this context have his choices bounded to his company interests.

The concern of economical actors is just not to solve anything. Its to make money.

The more a resources go short, the more its value increase. This does not stop extinction by over exploitation it encourage it.


Ecology


Ecology Utility Comment
Economical emigration = No claim
Unemployment + As it is way is less efficient
Growth, development, progress = Claim an alternative development
Environmental disaster, species extinction + It is indeed the main concern, but is it able to solve them alone ?
Racism = No claim
War, terrorism = No claim
Starvation = No claim
Social inequity, poverty, injustice = No claim

Ecology, at its beginnings it wasn't really a concern for the majority. Nothing to worry about with whales, cod, moa, lions, tigers. Coal, what a god damned brilliant stuff. Heating for all in Europa, that was much freezing than nowadays, yep. Then diesel, soon after, nuclear power. ecology at those times wasn't just audible.

However, most of the times, ecology have been able to predict what was going to follow man actions, like whaling, fishing, intensive farming, industrial exhausts or whatever. As a science ecology is a major interest.

Promoting alternatives solutions is an other field that is also called ecology. This time, ecology act as a technology provider. Part of them actually show real improvement while being compatible with our way of life. Obviously we should use the smother possible solutions and it may be possible to ask people to make efforts to save resources or keep clean the places there where.

But for now, these alternatives are not able to produce enough energy and food for industrial and post-industrial places. Even if key improvement are found, for example to solve energy storage and transportation issues, the overall production will stay below the needs as there are about to increase. For them to succeed in wining this race it is necessary to come down with population and/or standard of living.


Education


Eduction Utility Comment
Economical emigration = Emigrant are most of the time educated
Unemployment +
Growth, development, progress + Education indeed improve standard of living
Environmental disaster, species extinction = The threat is coming from educated people
Racism + School is a social mixer
War, terrorism = When school is generalized war does not disappear.
Starvation = This is most of the time due to conditions changes.
Social inequity, poverty, injustice + School is a social mixer

Education is key main item. If people are expected to follow rules or trends, the least is to tell them about. Education should not stop at the end of studies.


Demography decrease


Demography decrease Utility
Economical emigration + Less people, more resource, no need to move.
Unemployment + Less people less workers
Growth, development, progress = Global economy might shrink, but individually it is positive
Environmental disaster, species extinction + Lower human foot print
Racism + Lower social pressure
War, terrorism + Who you gonna fight with ?
Starvation + This is most of the time due to conditions changes.
Social inequity, poverty, injustice + The most numerous, the larger is the gap between rich and poors.

Southern wasteland


Wasteland Utility Comment
Economical emigration + Flow from south is not due to economical reasons
Unemployment +People have to work more to welcome new comers
Growth, development, progress + Having more people to north will probably boost economy
Environmental disaster, species extinction + Lower human pressure
Racism + Mixing south population with north's help people to live together
War, terrorism =Now war and terrorism has other goals. petrol, spectacle ?
Starvation = This is most of the time due to conditions changes.
Social inequity, poverty, injustice + At least for people in the south that struggle for life


Thanks to kat, nat and fanfan for hearing me and for lecture.




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